http://www.lowcostwatersofteners.com/ This guy has a YouTube channel. It seems he used to own a water softening company but now only does installs. He doesn't sell anything other than getting small affiliate money from the already established and the very few Amazon water system sellers. Most online order treatment companies that hide behind their own website but two companies exposed their products to harsh Amazon review system. I'm considering buying from them from Amazon. Anyway in this video he explains that he doesn't even use his softener anymore because the conditioner does such wonderful job. If you search Amazon for conditioner you'll see some great reviews and some not so great reviews. I highly doubt that companies like AO Smith will scam for fake reviews AO Smith Whole House Salt Free Water Descaler - Water Softener Alternative - 6yr, 600,000 Gl - AO-WH-DSCLR https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R8FF5Q9/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_MSFNCZ1JT63684Q46XXJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1