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Tangurena /r/collapse
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1970-01-20 01:25:30.961 +0000 UTC

It's completely reasonable to assume we would go to war to protect the planet.

No. It won't happen. American courts have done, and will do everything they possibly can to protect American corporations. If that means killing every person on Earth to do so, it will be done.

After Chevron (Chevron purchased Texaco who had been the original company doing the polluting) got the lawyer who defended the Ecuadorian tribes thrown into jail, instead of paying the tribes who had their water poisoned, I see no possible way that American courts would ever protect the Amazon rain forest.

I do think Americans are uniquely positioned to actually do something about the situation.

We could. However we will never do that. Corporations in the US spend hundreds of millions of dollars annually to deny that CO2 emissions have any effect on the climate. Part of that is spent "lobbying" politicians, but the majority is spent on media campaigns to deny climate change.

The books Trust Us, We're Experts and Toxic Sludge Is Good For You document how the PR industry is used to manipulate public opinion. Two other examples in the books are cigarettes and leaded gasoline (petrol). Doctors have known for over 100 years that these 2 were dangerous to human health, but companies paid doctors and actors to claim that they were good for you. The same tactics used to deny the health hazards of tobacco, leaded gasoline and silica are used to deny climate change.


Online copies for reading:
Trust Us, We're Experts - https://archive.org/details/trustuswereexper00shel
Toxic Sludge Is Good For You - https://archive.org/details/toxicsludgeisgoo00stau

Other books by these authors:
https://archive.org/details/weaponsofmassdec00ramp https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781585425099
https://archive.org/details/bananarepublican00ramp


As long as Brazil continues to export oil to the US, we will not invade, nor will we intervene militarily:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm


His sentencing is the latest twist in a legal saga stemming from his representation of villagers in Ecuador's Lago Agrio region who sought to hold Chevron liable for water and soil contamination by Texaco between 1964 and 1992. Chevron acquired Texaco in 2000.

Donziger, a Harvard Law School graduate, won a $9.5 billion judgment against Chevron in an Ecuadorian court in 2011.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/lawyer-who-sued-chevron-sentenced-six-months-contempt-case-2021-10-01/

Environmental lawyer Steven Donziger spent 25 years helping fight a million-dollar legal battle in the Ecuadorian Amazon against oil giant Chevron. But on July 26, a U.S. federal judge found him guilty of six counts of criminal contempt of court for withholding evidence in a long, complex legal fight.

Having already served more than 700 days of house arrest, Donziger now awaits sentencing. He faces six months in jail as the culmination of a process he and his lawyers have called "a charade." Donziger was a fundamental part of the team of lawyers that sued Chevron in the early 1990s for toxic dumping in the Ecuadorian Amazon. After the case concluded in the affected communities’ favor in 2011, Chevron countersued Donziger in the United States for alleged fraud in the Ecuadorian courts.

https://nacla.org/news/2021/08/25/ecuador-chevron-donziger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lago_Agrio_oil_field

Chevron had been ordered to pay $9.5bn (£7.4bn) compensation to thousands of residents in Ecuador's Amazon region.

They accused the company of dumping toxic waste in local lakes and rivers of the Lago Agrio region for decades.

The court said that the 2011 Ecuador Supreme Court ruling had been obtained through fraud, bribery and corruption.

The oil giant now stands to be awarded hundreds of millions of dollars in costs by The Hague's Permanent Court of Arbitration.

The plaintiffs say that the oil company knowingly dumped 18bn gallons (68bn litres) of toxic waste water and spilled 17m gallons of crude oil into the rainforest during its operations in north-east Ecuador.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45455984

Chevron is defending itself against false allegations that it is responsible for alleged environmental and social harms in the Amazon region of Ecuador. In February 2011, an $18 billion judgment—later reduced to $9.5 billion—was rendered against Chevron by a court in Lago Agrio, Ecuador, for alleged contamination resulting from crude oil production in the region. On March 4, 2014, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York ruled that the $9.5 billion Ecuadorian judgment was the product of fraud and racketeering activity, finding it unenforceable.

The nearly 500-page ruling (1.6 MB) finds that Steven Donziger, the lead American lawyer behind the Ecuadorian lawsuit against the company, violated the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), committing extortion, money laundering, wire fraud, Foreign Corrupt Practices Act violations, witness tampering and obstruction of justice in obtaining the Ecuadorian judgment and in trying to cover up his and his associates’ crimes.

The ruling prohibits Donziger and his associates from seeking to enforce the Ecuadorian judgment in the United States and further prohibits them from profiting from their illegal acts.

https://www.chevron.com/ecuador