I was outfitting a student worship center at a local church and I found these on Amazon. I was thouroughly shocked at how good they were for the price. Of course with cheap movers you sacrifice most things that make "professional" movers professional. For example, they are choppy when attempting to move them very slow. Also they don't want to address above 255. But the light output is fantastic and the color is great. Far better color and light output than any cheap American Dj light I have put in a tiny venue lately. I expected them to break but it's been 6 months now and we are going strong. Sometimes you find a gem every once and a while.