my setup doesn’t have a sub woofer and I wanted to speakers with a nice amount of sub bass to compensate
A setup you already have or the turntable and speaker setup you will be buying?
If you want bass you can feel you would add a subwoofer to studio monitors too, often a pro studio subwoofer.
You could start without a subwoofer and then add the subwoofer later.
Home audio passive speakers can go almost as low as the 39 hz Kali LP6.
A few examples on sale:
I have 6.5" Ascend CBM-170SE $398 $312 B-stock.
They have a linear frequency response with a neutral sound.
Both the on- and off-axis frequency response measure so flat that this little gem exceeded our initial expectations and is suitable for professional studio monitoring.
Then they forgo trying to go to low since most people who what great lower bass than speakers are capable of producing will be adding a subwoofer anyways.
Because we elected to focus on vocal accuracy and clarity, instead of unrealistic over emphasized bass (like most other speakers in this class,) bass is fast and tight, not boomy and muddy. If you desire deeper bass extension, we recommend pairing the CBM-170 SE with a high-quality powered subwoofer.
Then power the passive speakers with a stereo receiver or integrated amp:
Or buy a used amp or receiver for less cost.
Then later add a subwoofer:
Pass on most anything from turntable lab and pass on their bundles that don't make much sense.
Pass on the YU speakers that are pricey for what they are and you can do better for around the same cost. Pass on the tiny A2+ that are small computer type speakers for a small desk.
Both turntables are around the same entry level quailty. Do you need a fully automatic turntable?
Better setup for under $350:
Or passive speakers and separate speaker amplification with Bluetooth:
Passive speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Or 5 speakers for an AV receiver:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Optional turntable upgrades:
Or look for a used stereo or AV receiver and a pair of used passive speakers. What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search? Reply here or chat.
Setup Guide / Signal Path: Turntable > Phono Preamp (separate or built into the turntable or speaker amplification) > Speaker Amplification (separate or built into speakers) > Speakers
The topping is $200 - a very functional amp, but not cheap. Do you need a headphone out?
So do you want $100 speakers or are you willing to spend $300 in addition to the amplifier?
The Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 are $239 right now, and I don't think will be lower https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587
Instead of the Loxjie and iFi consider a stereo receiver or integrated amp with a built in phono preamp:
The Q150 are supposedly better than the larger Q350 and the 150 seem to even go a bit lower.
Speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Or look for a used stereo receiver and a pair of used passive speakers. What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search? Reply here or chat.
Which model is your amp or receiver?
What is a nearby town or zip code I can search for used options?
Stand mount speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Fine to start with if you already have the Panasonic CD micro system and it works well enough.
The speakers are inexpensive basic entry level so they are a sound quality bottleneck for the turntable and records. A speaker upgrade will give you better sound quality that the turntable and records are capable of providing. However you will need to also replace the main Panasonic CD micro system component.
What is a nearby town or zip code I can search for used upgrade options? Reply here or chat.
New options:
Powered speakers:
Or separate amp or receiver and passive speaker upgrade:
Amplification:
Passive speakers:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Turntables:
Pass on the older RT81 since the newer improved Fluance RT82 adds the new optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for lower wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second.
The entry level AT-LP60X has automatic playback and is easy setup beginner plug and play if those are features you need. If you must have an automatic turntable then the better AT-LP3 $199 adds adjustable tracking force and a removable cartridge. Balance the tonearm and set the tracking force, same as the manual turntables.
If you want an Audio Technica then instead of AT-LP120X, AT-LP60X, AT-LP3, turntables with a solid MDF plinth like the Fluance RT82:
Speakers:
Pass on tiny A2+ with 2.75" mid bass drivers unless they are for desktop use on a small desk.
Pass on Edifier R1280 that will be a sound quality bottleneck for the turntables or they are often paired with the low budget AT-LP60X if your budget is low.
I recommend an amp or stereo receiver and better value $300 to $600 passive speakers on sale for $200.
Amplification with Bluetooth:
For turntable with a built in phono preamp (not the Fluance RT82):
For turntables with or without a built in phono preamp, all the turntable options:
Or is there also a TV in the room to get an AV receiver with HDMI?
Passive speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Or what is a nearby town or zip code I can search for used receiver and speaker options?
Setup Guide / Signal Path: Turntable > Phono Preamp (separate or built into the turntable or speaker amplification) > Speaker Amplification (separate or built into speakers) > Speakers
Powered speakers:
Or an amp or receiver and passive speakers:
Amp or receiver:
Passive speakers:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Audio Guides, Speaker Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care
Also check out r/budgetaudiophile.
That will work.
I recommend turntables with a solid MDF plinth:
Onkyo TX-8220 $199 has a built in phono preamp like the Sony but adds RCA subwoofer output and a digital optical input.
Speakers:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Or look for a used stereo or AV receiver and a pair of used passive speakers. What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search? Reply here or chat.
Which model turntable do you have or are looking to buy.
iFi Zen AIR Phono is an alternative to the Pluto 2 for the same $99 price.
Or start with a built in phono preamp in the speaker amplification for passive speakers:
Passive speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Or look for a used stereo or AV receiver and a pair of used passive speakers. What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search? Reply here or chat.
Setup Guide / Signal Path: Turntable > Phono Preamp (separate or built into the turntable or speaker amplification) > Speaker Amplification (separate or built into speakers) > Speakers
Onkyo TX-8220 $199 with built in phono preamp adds RCA subwoofer output and a digital optical input over the Sony.
Plus speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
The older RT81 is not worth buying anymore since the newer upgraded RT82 for $50 more adds a $100 increase in performance and component value because it adds the new optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for much lower wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second. The RT82 includes the OM10 cartrdige that is just as good as the newer version 2M Red on the RT83 so there is not much reason to get the RT83.
If you want lower cost then the AT-LPW30TK $329 $199 with a built in phono preamp instead of the RT80 or RT81.
Total budget is $600?
Options with powered speakers under $400 or around $500:
Separate amplification and passive speakers allows you to later upgrade one part at a time.
Connect either turntable to a mini amp or stereo or AV receiver:
Passive speakers on sale in or over budget:
Or over budget floor standing towers, however then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Pass on the Yamaha R-S202 and 4" Klipsch R-41M speakers.
Or what is your location I can search for used options? Reply here or chat.
That is getting to be a large room.
Consider the larger Diamond 225 especially if not adding a subwoofer.
Or the dual 5" Monolith towers or even the dual 6" Wharfedlae towers.
Or 6.5" ELAC Debtu B6.2 go lower than some other speakers.
Pass on the basic Sony STR-DH190 unless you really can't spend more than $170. The Onkyo is better if $199 is your limit, it adds digital optical input and subwoofer output over the Sony.
You can add Bluetooth to anything without it by connected a small $25 Bluetooth receiver.
Or better WiFi streamers with voice or app control and they also have Bluetooth:
Echo Dot $22
Wiim Mini or Pro both add Apple Airplay 2 and Siri plus Chromecast and Google Assistant on the Pro.
Good quailty good value starter setup:
Turntable: AT-LPW30TK $329 $199 has a built in phono preamp.
Speakers: 5.25" Neumi BSP5 $159 have a built in speaker amp with audio cable input for the turntable plus Bluetooth for streaming audio.
Separate components:
Turntable: Fluance RT82 $299 has auto stop. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better.
Stereo Receiver: Onkyo TX-8220 $199 has a built in phono preamp.
Passive speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Or look for a used stereo or AV receiver and a pair of used passive speakers. What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search? Reply here or chat.
Get better speakers:
Get something like the ELAC Debut 2 B6.2s - https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587
and get a sub like the Monolith THX 10inch Ultra will work perfectly.
Link to Monolith THX 10 Inch - https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=42843
Get the Receiver you listed since it's a 6 Ohm impedance AVR and the ELACs are matched too at their impedance of 6 ohm. So they're a match, u/claireapple
Speaker amplification with Bluetooth:
Passive speakers under $150 on sale:
Better passive speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Or 5 speakers for an AV receiver:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Or powered speakers with Bluetooth:
If you are looking for better sound quailty then upgrade the speakers first or at the same time a stylus upgrade since the Edifiers are the sound quailty bottleneck, not necessarily the ATN91 stylus.
Once you have upgraded to good $300 to $600 MSRP passive speakers on sale for $200 to $300 and a $200+ amp or receiver then instead of a $150 cartridge upgrade for the RT80 consider a turntable upgrade that will already have an upgraded cartridge installed.
Turntable upgrade after the speaker upgrade: Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO $437 open box.
Amplification upgrade:
Passive speakers on sale:
Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands:
Plus speaker wire, pure copper oxygen free 16 AWG or optional thicker 14 AWG. Then How To Strip Speaker Wire and How to Install Speaker Wire.
Or look for a used stereo receiver and a pair of used passive speakers. What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search? Reply here or chat.
I’m a bit new to amps but I’m willing to drop $200 on that and $200 on speakers
Spend $75 on the amp and $225 on the speakers
Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 are $239 https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Debut-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B07B4Q5587
AIYIMA A07 is $59 after $20 coupon is clipped on Amazon.