Got it, so without XMP I'm limited to the timings on 1.2V at 3200 MHz. In that case, it looks like there are two choices here: either the T-Group Zeus at CL22-22-22-52 for $62, or the OLOy Lightning at CL18-20-20-40 for $78, both of which are 3200 MHz at 1.2V without XMP. Do you think the tighter timings on the OLOy will make any appreciable difference, at least enough to be worth an extra 16 bucks?
I've been using these for some time now. Work great.
https://www.amazon.com/OLOy-2x16GB-260-Pin-Laptop-MD4S1632180BZ0DH/dp/B09338C27Y?th=1