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Puzzleheaded-Phase70 /r/GayChristians
6 points
1970-01-20 03:26:59.606 +0000 UTC

The militant part of me wants you to show up with a stack of books and DVDs and hijack the entire training session with pro-lgbtetc Christian theologies.

But the part of me that remembers needing to be in the closet for safety understand that this isn't always possible or safe.

Things to consider in the meantime:

  1. Find a local LGBT group, christian or not, that you can join.
  2. Come on here and socialize.
  3. Find a group on Discord or Facebook
  4. Join an MCC zoom virtual church regardless of your location.
  5. Self-study: check out these books and other resources that helped me bulletproof my faith as a queer christian:

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Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality, Revised and Expanded Edition: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church - Dr. Jack Rogers

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

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Coming Out as Sacrament Paperback - Chris Glaser

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

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Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century - Dr. John Boswell

https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Social-Tolerance-Homosexuality-Fourteenth/dp/022634522X/

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Radical Love: Introduction to Queer Theology - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

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From Sin to Amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

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Anyone and Everyone - Documentary

https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

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For The Bible Tells Me So

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YHQNCI

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Straight Ahead Comic - Life’s Not Always Like That!

http://straightahead.comicgenesis.com/

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Puzzleheaded-Phase70 /r/GayChristians
3 points
1970-01-20 04:21:28.962 +0000 UTC

Here's my list:


Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality, Revised and Expanded Edition: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church - Dr. Jack Rogers

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

Coming Out as Sacrament Paperback - Chris Glaser

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century - Dr. John Boswell

https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Social-Tolerance-Homosexuality-Fourteenth/dp/022634522X/

Radical Love: Introduction to Queer Theology - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

From Sin to Amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

Anyone and Everyone - Documentary

https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

For The Bible Tells Me So

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YHQNCI

Straight Ahead Comic - Life’s Not Always Like That!

http://straightahead.comicgenesis.com/

Puzzleheaded-Phase70 /r/GayChristians
3 points
1970-01-20 02:24:11.077 +0000 UTC

I'm a gay Christian who has been singing with a Jewish chorus for a number of years now and been celebrating some of the holy days with Jewish friends for a long time now, and staying to get into the theologies and deeper mysteries of "the ancient faith".

So I'm just on the other side of the mirror, so to speak.

If you're looking for queer Christian resources, these have been very helpful in my journey, and they might be useful for you too.

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Tells-Me-So/dp/B071H7C5YC/

http://straightahead.comicgenesis.com/

https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

Puzzleheaded-Phase70 /r/GayChristians
24 points
1970-01-20 10:39:12.138 +0000 UTC

You are loved, and lovingly made by a loving God-who-is-Love.

And queer people are part of the loving plan, not some kind of defect.

There's an entire world of queer theology out there, undoing the sin of homophobia and transphobia one page at a time.

Here are a bunch of resources that helped me break free of the toxic false theologies of my family and reach a deeper understanding of God.

I suggest starting with the first book and the two by Rev. Dr Cheng.

Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality, Revised and Expanded Edition: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church - Dr. Jack Rogers https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

Coming Out as Sacrament Paperback - Chris Glaser https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century - Dr. John Boswell https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Social-Tolerance-Homosexuality-Fourteenth/dp/022634522X/

Radical Love: Introduction to Queer Theology - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

From Sin to Amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

Anyone and Everyone - Documentary https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

For The Bible Tells Me So https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YHQNCI

Straight Ahead Comic - Life’s Not Always Like That! http://straightahead.comicgenesis.com/

God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships - Matthew Vines http://www.amazon.com/God-Gay-Christian-Biblical-Relationships-ebook/dp/B00F1W0RD2/

Puzzleheaded-Phase70 /r/GayChristians
2 points
1970-01-20 04:45:05.619 +0000 UTC

Some of these have been helpful in discussing queer theology with my mother at least (my father is a sign-waving buffoon now, just a couple steps removed from the Westboro Baptist Church freaks). But it can be really REALLY hard to talk to Catholics about this stuff if they have drunk the koolaid about the infallibility of the magisterium or the pope or what have you.

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Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality, Revised and Expanded Edition: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church - Dr. Jack Rogers

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

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Coming Out as Sacrament Paperback - Chris Glaser

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

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Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century - Dr. John Boswell

https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Social-Tolerance-Homosexuality-Fourteenth/dp/022634522X/

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Radical Love: Introduction to Queer Theology - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

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From Sin to Amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

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Anyone and Everyone - Documentary

https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

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For The Bible Tells Me So

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YHQNCI

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Puzzleheaded-Phase70 /r/GayChristians
1 point
1970-01-20 04:50:23.199 +0000 UTC

Try giving him some of these resources to help him find a more loving understanding of the Bible.

I especially recommend the first 2 books, and the 2 by Rev. Dr. Patrick Cheng.


Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality, Revised and Expanded Edition: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church - Dr. Jack Rogers

https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

Coming Out as Sacrament Paperback - Chris Glaser

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century - Dr. John Boswell

https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Social-Tolerance-Homosexuality-Fourteenth/dp/022634522X/

Radical Love: Introduction to Queer Theology - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

From Sin to Amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

Anyone and Everyone - Documentary

https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

For The Bible Tells Me So

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YHQNCI

Straight Ahead Comic - Life’s Not Always Like That!

http://straightahead.comicgenesis.com/

circuitloss /r/Episcopalian
7 points
1970-01-20 12:51:20.143 +0000 UTC

This isn't my list, but was shared in /r/OpenChristian

Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality, Revised and Expanded Edition: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church - Dr. Jack Rogers https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

Coming Out as Sacrament Paperback - Chris Glaser https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century - Dr. John Boswell https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Social-Tolerance-Homosexuality-Fourteenth/dp/022634522X/

Radical Love: Introduction to Queer Theology - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

From Sin to Amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

Anyone and Everyone - Documentary https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

For The Bible Tells Me So https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YHQNCI

Straight Ahead Comic - Life’s Not Always Like That! http://straightahead.comicgenesis.com/

God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships - Matthew Vines http://www.amazon.com/God-Gay-Christian-Biblical-Relationships-ebook/dp/B00F1W0RD2/

Puzzleheaded-Phase70 /r/GayChristians
6 points
1970-01-20 12:17:29.898 +0000 UTC

drops my book list and runs away to go sleep

Jesus, the Bible, and Homosexuality, Revised and Expanded Edition: Explode the Myths, Heal the Church - Dr. Jack Rogers https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Bible-Homosexuality-Revised-Expanded/dp/066423397X/

Coming Out as Sacrament Paperback - Chris Glaser https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Out-Sacrament-Chris-Glaser/dp/0664257488/

Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: Gay People in Western Europe from the Beginning of the Christian Era to the Fourteenth Century - Dr. John Boswell https://www.amazon.com/Christianity-Social-Tolerance-Homosexuality-Fourteenth/dp/022634522X/

Radical Love: Introduction to Queer Theology - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Love-Introduction-Queer-Theology/dp/1596271329/

From Sin to Amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ - Rev. Dr. Patrick S. Cheng https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596272384/

Anyone and Everyone - Documentary https://www.amazon.com/Anyone-Everyone-Susan-Polis-Schutz/dp/B000WGLADI/

For The Bible Tells Me So https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YHQNCI

Straight Ahead Comic - Life’s Not Always Like That! http://straightahead.comicgenesis.com/

God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships - Matthew Vines http://www.amazon.com/God-Gay-Christian-Biblical-Relationships-ebook/dp/B00F1W0RD2/