Not much of an upgrade, since it still uses the same ceramic cartridge. The reviews of it and techplay support are not good.

What about the Victrola has been unsatisfactory? Im asking since you run the risk of repeating it

If your budget is 269 for the Techplay, then the 248 Angels Horn kit with an Audio Technica 3600 Moving Magnet Cart/diamond stylus is an easy reach. Its not amazing, but its better than the Techplay

Or for a tiny bit more, a refurbished AT LPW30 for 174 plus refurbed Edifier 1280T for 104 (with the LPW30 you will want to upgrade the speakers later, but this gets you started)

250 might get you started with something good used, if you were inclined...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095SQ1GP5 not very good speakers and not so good turntable.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PLTJPY2 $140 turntable $100 speakers and the kit is not worth $45.

Turntables and speakers starting at $139 and $49.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095SQ1GP5

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PLTJPY2

I am returning the 8-in-1. Is picking up another Victrola turntable a good idea? It seems like a lot of people don’t like those and Crosbley’s. Not sure though, I’m new to the gear side of this hobby. Let me know your thoughts, and thank you for your help!

Side note: What do you think of this?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095SQ1GP5?linkCode=ogi&tag=esq-lift-20&ascsubtag=%5Bartid%7C10054.g.34874522%5Bsrc%7Carb_ga_esq_d_bm_comm_lft_us_g34874522%5Bch%7C1932857cbca7997c7449cfdae9d6a146%5Blt%7COn+Sale%5Bpid%7Ca3f5894f-fd02-487f-bab0-edd2ea7f7c52

I’m a beginner here, and I wanna get a new setup for $250 (or under), and I’ve come to 2 options

There’s this Angel’s Horn that comes with speakers for $250

And this Audio Technica that doesn’t for $200

If anyone has a third alternative within that budget it would also be much appreciated

I’m aware that overall, the Audio Technica is a better table overall in terms of manufacturing and quality and such, but I’m on a budget. IDK if I’ll need an amp for either (will I?) but I’m not sure if I can get a good speaker for the audio technica for $50. I’m not an audiophile, I just want to start a vinyl collection and be able to actually play the records. I’ve watched multiple reviews applauding the Angel’s Horn, and I’ve seen a few posts here of people happy with it, but I don’t wanna run into issues later on. The included speakers are ok-ish, but they can be directly replaced later.

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I know I’ve been asking a lot of questions lately, some of which could seem quite naïve to some of you more experienced folks, but I’d appreciate any thoughts or advice

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edit: I browsed eBay for both and there arent any cheaper listings (except $5-10 less)