I bought them and returned the same day, like 4 other pair of casual whitins I tried. I still love my first pair of 4 years and was very disappointed every time I put another one on. each one looked decent, felt decent to the hand, but terrible to the foot. They had weird pressure points in deferent places to the other foot. and not points that will wear in. "I can't wear this for more than 10 minutes, it will cause a blister."