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sharkamino /r/vinyl
2 points
1970-01-20 10:31:54.1 +0000 UTC

$49 Technolink

$99 iFi Zen Air or U-Turn Pluto 2

Or you could even use your old receiver with the new TV: TV digital optical output > $13 digital to analog converter > RCA input on receiver.

Which model cartridge, stylus and speakers?

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 12:14:10.461 +0000 UTC

Which models are all the Sonos speakers you have?

The only Sonos speaker with an audio cable input is the Five. The Port and Amp to use with a pair of powered or passive speakers have audio cable inputs. Or a few of the newer Sonos speakers have Bluetooth if you must use Bluetooth so you would connect a Bluetooth transmitter to a turntable or phono preamp.

You don't necessarily need a turntable with a built in phono preamp. You can connect a small inexpensive phono preamp to a turntable without a built in phono preamp.

The Fluance RT82 is the one to get from your list. Connect a $33 Bozak phono preamp that is likely better than the one built into the RT81 or other turntables or the $99 iFi Zen Air Phono if you will be upgrading from Sonos to better speakers now or later.

Or the AT-LPW30TK $329 $199 on sale with a built in phono preamp is a good value.

Pass on the T1 that lacks user adjustable anti-slake and a rotary dial on the tracking force adjustment.

Pass on the U-Turn Orbit that lacks user adjustable anti-skate, lacks a rotary dial on the tracking force adjustment, lacks a speed switch so you need to move the belt to the other pulley to change the speed which sometimes has issues, the cue lever is an extra $40, and adding options to increase the cost does not make the turntable itself, the tonearm and motor, any better.

Setup Guide / Signal Path

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 10:29:56.957 +0000 UTC

Where are the speakers and turntable located? Photo of your setup? Upload to https://imgur.com/upload and reply with link.

Maybe you are experiencing rumble from the turntable and need a better phono preamp with a sub sonic or low cut rumble filter.

https://www.amazon.com/ART-DJPREII-Phono-Preamplifier/dp/B000AJR482

https://www.amazon.com/iFi-Audio-Zen-Air-Phono/dp/B09V7TPL4W

Maybe you need some turntable isolation

https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gwknbd/turntable_isolation/

sharkamino /r/vinyl
2 points
1970-01-20 12:52:58.253 +0000 UTC

If you are looking for better sound quailty then upgrade your speakers first since the Infinity speakers though decent to start with may be a larger sound quailty bottleneck than the AT-LP60X could be which can last through a speaker upgrade.

Then after or along with the speaker upgrade you could try an elliptical tip stylus upgrade before a turntable upgrade.

Then if you later get the Fluance RT82 the Sony receiver has a built in phono preamp to start with, pass on the Fluance PA10. If you later want an external phono preamp upgrade then the $99 iFi Zen AIR Phono instead of the PA10.

Speakers on sale:

Or floor standing towers, then you don't need to buy or build speaker stands if you don't already have any:

Or what is a nearby town or zip code I can search for used speakers? Reply here or chat.

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 12:33:56.573 +0000 UTC

What is the rest of your setup, which model speakers and amplification?

Manual turntables if you don't need fully automatic:

The Fluance RT82 $299 with auto stop adds an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for low wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better. Connect the RT82 to a Bozak or iFi Zen Air phono preamp and a Bluetooth Transmitter.

If you want lower cost around the cost of the AT-LP60X then the manual Insignia Turntable $129 also adds an optical speed sensor controlled motor. It has a built in phono preamp and a built in Bluetooth transmitter.

Or the better Monoprice Turntable $199 also has a built in phono preamp and a built in Bluetooth transmitter.

Or the also better AT-LPW30TK $329 $195 has a built in phono preamp then connect it to a Bluetooth Transmitter.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 12:34:28.335 +0000 UTC

No. Not directly you would need a separate phono preamp. An RCA cable is included with the RT82.

Questions:

  1. You will also be using the receiver and speakers with a TV in addition to the turntable?
  2. Which model speakers will you be using with the receiver?

Pass on Pyle and get a better Denon or Yamaha if you want an AV receiver.

The RT82 > AV Receiver $299+ with a built in phono preamp via the Phono input.

Or RT82 > Bozak $33 or iFi Zen Air $99 phono preamp > AV receiver without a built in phono preamp $229 to $279.

Or the AT-LPW30TK $329 $195 has a built in phono preamp > AV receiver without a built in phono preamp $229 to $279.

Or if you will never be adding more than 2 speakers, 2 channel stereo receiver or integrated amp with a built in phono preamp:

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 11:49:54.153 +0000 UTC

Auto stop either built in or add on product (I want to put a record on and slip into a bath, go cook dinner, or otherwise potentially wander off)

Auto stop is a nice convenience to have however leaving the stylus running in the run out groove for 5 to 10 minutes or even 30 to 60 once in a while won't hurt anything and if you do it often then you just replace the stylus somewhat sooner when it wears out. Or add a Q-UP tonearm lifter for when you need it. Or a smart outlet if falling asleep to a record to cut the power to the turntable after 25 minutes.

Turntables:

  • AT-LPW30TK $329 $195 has a built in phono preamp.
  • Fluance RT82 $299 has auto stop. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor that the RT82 has. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better.
  • Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO $599, or $479 open box, or $449 demo, has better quality components.

Is the Denon AV receiver connected to your TV? Do you have more than 2 speakers for movie and TV surround sound?

Phono preamp:

  • Bozak $33 phono preamp may be sufficient for the entry level small Micca speakers.
  • iFi Zen AIR Phono $99 if you plan on a $200+ speaker upgrade to get up to the quailty level of the $300 to $600 turntable.

If you have a $500 to $600 upgrade budget you could get the Fluance RT82 plus a speaker upgrade:

Or what is a nearby town or zip code I can search for used options for less cost? Reply here or chat.

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
2 points
1970-01-20 12:12:36.574 +0000 UTC

You already have the AT-LP120X and VM540 setup?

The Topping seems to lack an analog input for the turntable.

Ideally get a separate amp and DAC. JDS Atom Headphone Amp has a 2 input switch to switch between the turntable and a JDS Atom DAC+.

Also upgrade to a better phono preamp. iFi Zen Air $99 or better.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 08:12:18.783 +0000 UTC

If you are looking at the $65 Art DJ and $149 Schiit Mani then I recommend the $99 iFi Zen AIR Phono that may be just as good as the Schiit Mani and it may be the same quailty as the $199 iFi Zen Phono that adds a metal casing instead of plastic on the lower cost AIR version.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 10:59:36.797 +0000 UTC

What have you had the Kali connected to?

Turntable > phono preamp > level controller, monitor controller, mixer or stereo preamp > studio monitors.

Phono preamps:

Volume control, 2 input switch and phono preamp:

RCA volume control:

Volume control and switching with multiple connection formats:

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
2 points
1970-01-20 12:45:58.465 +0000 UTC

Yes.

Setup Guide / Signal Path:

An $18 Pyle to start with for the Eris 3.5. Or the $33 Bozak is more than sufficient for the Eris 3.5 speakers.

Or $99 iFi Zen AIR Phono if you plan on spending just as much as on the turntable for a speaker upgrade or used speakers for half the cost.

Or get a new or used amp or receiver with a Phono input to a built in phono preamp if you will be upgrading to a good pair of passive speakers.

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 11:08:25.243 +0000 UTC

Orbit Plus with built in phono preamp $399 without the $40 cue lever?

Turntables that add a speed switch, add adjustable anti-skate, add a rotary dial on the tracking force adjustment and include a cue lever:

  • AT-LPW30TK $329 $199 has a built in phono preamp. Plus an upgrade to the $99 AT-VMN95EN stylus that gets you to the level of the Ortofon 2M Blue.
  • Drop + Audio-Technica Carbon VTA $399 has a built in phono preamp, adds VTA adjustment and includes a bit better AT-VMN95E stylus than the OM5 on the Orbit Plus.
  • Fluance RT82 $299 has lower wow and flutter and speed variation, adds auto stop and includes the OM10 stylus that is just as good as the newer version 2M Red. Plus a $99 iFi Zen AIR Phono preamp.
  • Over budget Project Debut Carbon EVO $499 demo sale has better quality components. Plus a $99 iFi Zen AIR Phono preamp.
sharkamino /r/vinyl
2 points
1970-01-20 11:34:12.982 +0000 UTC

Phono preamps to connect to your AV receiver:

  • Bozak $33 may be just as good or better than one built into an AV receiver.
  • iFi Zen AIR $99 should be a good step up from one built into an AV receiver.

Pass on the $99 Fluance PA10.

Which model are your main 2 speakers?

sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 09:46:17.297 +0000 UTC

Audio-Technica AT-LPW30TK and Audio-Technica At-LP5X are the better options on that list.

Your budget is $450? Pass on the basic entry level Sony and AT-LP60X.

Fluance RT82 $299 adds auto stop. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better. Plus a $49 Technolink or $99 iFi Zen AIR Phono preamp.

Pass on the Primary and T1. If you want a Project get a better Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO $449 demo sale.

What will you be connecting the turntable too, which amp and speakers?

sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 12:02:24.655 +0000 UTC

Which model subwoofer?

Location I can search for used upgrade options?

Speaker Placement

Turntable:

  • AT-LPW30TK $329 $195 is a good value. Plus now or later optional upgrade to the $49 AT-VMN95E or $99 AT-VMN95EN stylus.
  • Fluance RT82 $299 adds auto stop. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better. Later upgrade to the OM20 when the included OM10 wears out,
  • Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO $395 demo sale has better quality components. Later upgrade to the Olympia or Moonstone stylus.

Amplification with a built in phono preamp or upgrade to an external one:

Optional phono preamp to add now or later:

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 12:38:41.026 +0000 UTC

KEF LSX powered speakers are rather good.

Rega are a good value in the UK but are pricey in the USA.

Pass on the Project E1 and T1 that are their entry level models that are beginner plug and play however they lack user adjustable anti-skate and lack a rotary dial on the tracking force adjustment.

A better Project worth buying is the Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO $599, or $431 open box sale in red or white.

Or if you like the Beetles, Project Essential III $249 on sale:

Fluance RT82 $299 adds auto stop. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor that the RT82 has. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better.

Plus for any of the above turntables a starter Bozak $33 phono preamp and upgrade later or start with a better iFi Zen AIR $99 phono preamp. Plus a RCA to 3.5mm audio cable to connect to the main KEF powered speaker.

Turntables with a built in phono preamp to connect directly to the main KEF powered speaker via an RCA to 3.5mm audio cable:

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 08:59:47.597 +0000 UTC

EVO connects directly to the Phono input on the Onyko that has a built in phono preamp.

Or the popular Yamaha A Series $299+ integrated amps also have a built in phono preamp via the Phono input.

If you must have smaller mini or compact amps:

If you start with a built in phono preamp you can optionally later upgrade to a better $99+ external phono preamp.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
2 points
1970-01-20 08:56:01.199 +0000 UTC

That all works!

Turntable includes an RCA cable and ground cable to connect to the phono preamp. Phono preamp and amp probably don't include an RCA cable so you will need another RCA cable to connect the phono preamp to the amp.

50 feet of speaker wire is plenty. 100 feet if you are wiring multiple speakers to other rooms or a 5 or 7 channel AV receiver setup.

Consider spending less on the phono preamp and a better amp so you could spend more on speakers.

For less than the cost of the $199 phono preamp and $169 mini amp consider the rather good Yamaha A-S301 $299 that has a built in phono preamp to start with or even the lower cost Onkyo TX-8220 $199 for the same cost of just the iFi Phono.

Then if you must have an iFi phono you could later get the $88 iFi Zen AIR Phono that seems to be as good as the $199 version, just has a plastic case instead of aluminum.

Turntables with better tonearms:

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sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 11:41:04.138 +0000 UTC

A 6 ft or 8 ft cable may be fine. Test vs a 3 ft to find out if you even notice any difference. Bluejeans you can order by the foot once you find out the length you need.

Or try an external phono preamp and send it back if you hear no difference. Don't buy from TTL with only 14 day returns, may charge a restock fee, and lacks prepaid return shipping discounts. Most other stores should have 30 or Crutchfield.com has 60 day returns and low flat fee returns.

$99 iFi Zen AIR Phono

$149 Schiit Mani

$249 Hagerman Bugle very recent new improved model.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 11:44:26.357 +0000 UTC
sharkamino /r/vinyl
3 points
1970-01-20 09:29:07.109 +0000 UTC

OM20 stylus and iFi Zen AIR Phono.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
3 points
1970-01-20 10:03:36.68 +0000 UTC

All good quailty, maybe upgrade nothing or you could try an OM20 stylus if you must upgrade something. Then maybe try an iFi Zen AIR Phono over the Art DJ Pre II.

Plus good speaker placement.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
1 point
1970-01-20 12:09:39.507 +0000 UTC

iFi Zen AIR Phono $99 alternative to Schiit Mani.

sharkamino /r/vinyl
3 points
1970-01-20 11:40:48.302 +0000 UTC

AT-LPW30TK $329 $195 is a lower cost alternative.

AT-LP3 $249 $199 is $100 less than the AT-LP3XBT if you did need fully automatic.

The phono preamp in the Onkyo may be sufficient for the Model Six speakers. Or try a $99 iFi Zen AIR Phono if you plan on a speaker upgrade now or later.

Speakers, scroll down to Monolith, Polk or Wharfedale or Monolith towers on sale. Or what is a nearby location I can search for used options?