I have a pair of these and I love them. Really great in 3 seasons. In extreme winter I just wear winter gloves, since these aren't really warm enough.

You're very welcome. I'm glad people are using it. We don't get analytics on the map, unlike this sub and videos and all that, so we have no idea how many people are using it at all. Glad it's been helpful.

In answer to your other conversations about gear, you're right that hands and knees are the most likely to get road rash if you fall. My gf and I have both ridden over 1500 miles here and each fallen once. I had no injuries at all, she had some road rash on hands and knees, though we easily rode home from both without real issues. I use these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XCCL4V6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_74DZYXD2XD7AHVDEBGWQ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Gloves are a great idea but I honestly don't bother when it's warm. Most people ride with very non serious bike helmets, or none at all but full face masks are honestly great. People think others will think it's overkill but honestly they are crazy comfortable compared to bike helmets and protect your face from road rash (which isn't likely even if you fall, but why risk it if you're already buying an expensive helmet.) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07GT86ZVL?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title